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obstinatrix ([personal profile] obstinatrix) wrote2012-03-26 12:26 am
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Having expended all my 7.17 feels in other people's LJ posts, I am left with only one (completely unrelated) question: why is exhibitionist!Sam not more of a thing?

This is really a rhetorical question, but I felt like typing it out all the same.

eta: Also, fandom has EXPLODED in crossdressed!Sam lately. This seems to be part of a slow equalisation of top!Sam:top!Dean fics in fandom. Sign of the apocalypse?

[identity profile] hunters-retreat.livejournal.com 2012-03-25 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen 7.17 yet (about to watch it now :P) but I totally agree with this. More exhibitionist!Sam please!!!

[identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com 2012-03-25 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know why it's my headcanon that he has a secret thing for it. I probably couldn't defend it. But.

[identity profile] checkthemargins.livejournal.com 2012-03-25 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
It really should be. I mean, Sam has wanted to be noticed his entire life, and the only way he has been in Show is in a bad light (Azazel's attention, the angels he needed so desperately to tell him he wasn't something wrong and evil failed him, he's known as the boy with the demon blood, the starter of the apocalypse, etc, etc), he's lived in Dean's shadow his whole life, been a disappointment to his dad, never got to meet his mom.

I think he could psychologically have exhibitionist kinks. Sam likes to be watched and others like to watch him.

Plus I'm pretty sure he was a stripper to pay for stuff while in Stanford.
Edited 2012-03-25 23:42 (UTC)

[identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com 2012-03-25 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
See, this is one of the reasons why you are so awesome. I express an unfounded porny request, and you show up and tell me why it is psychologically logical. ♥

YES, though. I completely agree. There was a prompt I wanted to write during Blindfold about Sam having, like, serious exhibitionist tendencies, but I was too embarrassed by a) how extreme it was and b) how sexy I found the whole thing to actually write it. fdgfdfhdfhb dammit. Like, publicdisgrace.com levels of exhibitionism.

I should probably lock this entry. OH WELL.

[identity profile] checkthemargins.livejournal.com 2012-03-25 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I totally think that is completely true, that Sam would be that extreme. Or at least think that extreme. Acting on it might be a little different. Sam is both a Good Boy and a Gentleman, and I also have a feeling he'd be really, really ashamed of it until someone whose opinion mattered to him told him it was okay.

But like, Sam is a person of extremes. He's either saving the world or utterly damning it. There is no happy medium. He jumped into Hell, his first thought before anything else was to do that. And even when he gets angry he gets FURIOUS, and when he gets sad it's all-consuming and suicidal. He not only ran away from hunting, he ran away and made a whole new life where he lied to everyone he met, because who he was could have no hold on who he (thought) he wanted to be. I don't think Jess knew the Sam that Dean does. Vice versa. Sam lives life at one end of the spectrum or the other, and Dean is the foundation that keeps him from flying over the edge (sometimes) on either side.

So I imagine Sam's kinks work the same way. IE Wincest...he's not just kind of attracted to Dean, he's in love with him. He doesn't just want to be blown in the bathroom, he wants to strip down and jerk off in the court yard outside.

And, because I am an angst whore, I think it would really affect him and he'd kind of hate himself for it, because he knows it isn't normal and Sam is, in general, terrified of himself and the things he's capable of anyway.

But, there are healthier, less illegal ways he could get away with it. Fetish clubs or house parties with like-minded people. Of course, that might take away some of the fun for him.
Edited 2012-03-25 23:55 (UTC)

[identity profile] quickreaver.livejournal.com 2012-03-25 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I think your userpic should be a national treasure.

[identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Weeping with how true this is. And I think you're right, too, about 'healthier' ways not necessarily sufficing, because he is so extreme in everything he does. Sam does everything wholeheartedly. This may be me projecting, but there's something about 'oh, he's getting fucked in front of a room full of people who all showed up expecting this' that is kind of 'eh, whatever, it doesn't count.' As opposed to 'no, they're actually doing this in the parking lot/against the window in broad daylight/on a bus', where nobody is expecting it and the threat, and thus the thrill, is real.

With you, as well, on the idea that it would really affect him badly that he's into this. Sam second-guesses himself at the best of times, even while he's adamant that he be allowed to do what he thinks is right for him to do, and anything that compounds his idea of himself as a freak will be yet another thing for him to be concerned about. Especially if this were something he were secretly doing at Stanford (doing porn that wound up on the Internet, as a mild example; doing hardcore exhibitionist porn that wound up on the Internet, as a slightly more extreme option) without the knowledge of the person whose opinion really matters (Dean, obviously).

[identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't he beautiful? ;)

[identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Your brain is the best thing in the world.

[identity profile] deirdre-c.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I just watched the ep this afternoon, and after the opening scene, my question was more along the lines of "why is hooker!Sam and/or Sam-offering-blowjobs-for-drugs" not more of a thing. Because, really, could that have been more explicit in why Sam was sleeping in that guy's car?

Sorry for the tangent. Exhibitionist Sam needs must be a THING. Please and thank you, fandom.

[identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Sign of the apocalypse?

Well, you know the world is supposed to end this year. In, a little under nine months, actually. So--maybe? Heh.

[identity profile] checkthemargins.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
OMG I NOTICED THAT TOO! Was that supposed to be Dean? Because it was so totally not Dean. He was so hooking.

[identity profile] checkthemargins.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
But Dean would totally be awesome about it. I mean he'd think it was a little weird, I think, but he'd notice how down on himself Sam is about it, and he'd totally say things to make him feel better. Because Dean is the best big brother sex-and-life partner ever. :D

[identity profile] checkthemargins.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
It really, really isn't usually. I am so boring outside of the world of Supernatural.

[identity profile] cordelia-gray.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
I was wondering that also! I don't think it's normal for people to fall asleep in their dealer's car after buying illicit drugs. I mean, I don't really know, but I don't think so. It's weird.

UNLESS Sam gave the guy blowjob/handjob in exchange for the drugs.

[identity profile] cordelia-gray.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Just some drive-by LOVE for this conversation.

Also, it is totally my head-canon that Sam & Dean make a little extra cash with a webcam when they can't find a good pool game to hustle.

[identity profile] runedgirl.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
SO TRUE!!! :)

[identity profile] runedgirl.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Crossdressed Winchesters of either the Sam or Dean variety are a very good sign in my book. Also, I can totally see the reasons for exhibitionist!Sam, and guh, if it drives Dean out of his mind, more the better... :)

[identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
DOES THIS MEAN PEOPLE WILL START WRITING ME TOP!JENSEN? ;_____;

[identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
I thought that was Dean in the car?

[identity profile] checkthemargins.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
I AM A FAN OF THIS IDEA!
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[personal profile] heard_the_owl 2012-03-26 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
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FOR DEAN AND SAMMY! PANTSU!

[identity profile] valiant.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
Just butting in to say publicdisgrace.com is right up my alley, pls write this.

[identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
Definitely! Unf, someone please write this. Obviously they'll have to wear masks or paint their faces or something, what with usually being manhunted by someone or other, but that's okay. ;)
Edited 2012-03-26 09:30 (UTC)

[identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com 2012-03-26 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
I tried, but I was physically blushing too much to continue. Must become more shameless.

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