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Having expended all my 7.17 feels in other people's LJ posts, I am left with only one (completely unrelated) question: why is exhibitionist!Sam not more of a thing?

This is really a rhetorical question, but I felt like typing it out all the same.

eta: Also, fandom has EXPLODED in crossdressed!Sam lately. This seems to be part of a slow equalisation of top!Sam:top!Dean fics in fandom. Sign of the apocalypse?

Date: 2012-03-25 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hunters-retreat.livejournal.com
I haven't seen 7.17 yet (about to watch it now :P) but I totally agree with this. More exhibitionist!Sam please!!!

Date: 2012-03-25 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
I don't know why it's my headcanon that he has a secret thing for it. I probably couldn't defend it. But.

Date: 2012-03-25 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] checkthemargins.livejournal.com
It really should be. I mean, Sam has wanted to be noticed his entire life, and the only way he has been in Show is in a bad light (Azazel's attention, the angels he needed so desperately to tell him he wasn't something wrong and evil failed him, he's known as the boy with the demon blood, the starter of the apocalypse, etc, etc), he's lived in Dean's shadow his whole life, been a disappointment to his dad, never got to meet his mom.

I think he could psychologically have exhibitionist kinks. Sam likes to be watched and others like to watch him.

Plus I'm pretty sure he was a stripper to pay for stuff while in Stanford.
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Date: 2012-03-25 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
See, this is one of the reasons why you are so awesome. I express an unfounded porny request, and you show up and tell me why it is psychologically logical. ♥

YES, though. I completely agree. There was a prompt I wanted to write during Blindfold about Sam having, like, serious exhibitionist tendencies, but I was too embarrassed by a) how extreme it was and b) how sexy I found the whole thing to actually write it. fdgfdfhdfhb dammit. Like, publicdisgrace.com levels of exhibitionism.

I should probably lock this entry. OH WELL.

Date: 2012-03-25 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] checkthemargins.livejournal.com
Oh, I totally think that is completely true, that Sam would be that extreme. Or at least think that extreme. Acting on it might be a little different. Sam is both a Good Boy and a Gentleman, and I also have a feeling he'd be really, really ashamed of it until someone whose opinion mattered to him told him it was okay.

But like, Sam is a person of extremes. He's either saving the world or utterly damning it. There is no happy medium. He jumped into Hell, his first thought before anything else was to do that. And even when he gets angry he gets FURIOUS, and when he gets sad it's all-consuming and suicidal. He not only ran away from hunting, he ran away and made a whole new life where he lied to everyone he met, because who he was could have no hold on who he (thought) he wanted to be. I don't think Jess knew the Sam that Dean does. Vice versa. Sam lives life at one end of the spectrum or the other, and Dean is the foundation that keeps him from flying over the edge (sometimes) on either side.

So I imagine Sam's kinks work the same way. IE Wincest...he's not just kind of attracted to Dean, he's in love with him. He doesn't just want to be blown in the bathroom, he wants to strip down and jerk off in the court yard outside.

And, because I am an angst whore, I think it would really affect him and he'd kind of hate himself for it, because he knows it isn't normal and Sam is, in general, terrified of himself and the things he's capable of anyway.

But, there are healthier, less illegal ways he could get away with it. Fetish clubs or house parties with like-minded people. Of course, that might take away some of the fun for him.
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Date: 2012-03-26 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valiant.livejournal.com
Just butting in to say publicdisgrace.com is right up my alley, pls write this.

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Date: 2012-03-25 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quickreaver.livejournal.com
I think your userpic should be a national treasure.

Date: 2012-03-26 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
Isn't he beautiful? ;)

Date: 2012-03-26 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deirdre-c.livejournal.com
I just watched the ep this afternoon, and after the opening scene, my question was more along the lines of "why is hooker!Sam and/or Sam-offering-blowjobs-for-drugs" not more of a thing. Because, really, could that have been more explicit in why Sam was sleeping in that guy's car?

Sorry for the tangent. Exhibitionist Sam needs must be a THING. Please and thank you, fandom.

Date: 2012-03-26 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] checkthemargins.livejournal.com
OMG I NOTICED THAT TOO! Was that supposed to be Dean? Because it was so totally not Dean. He was so hooking.

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Date: 2012-03-26 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cordelia-gray.livejournal.com
I was wondering that also! I don't think it's normal for people to fall asleep in their dealer's car after buying illicit drugs. I mean, I don't really know, but I don't think so. It's weird.

UNLESS Sam gave the guy blowjob/handjob in exchange for the drugs.

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Date: 2012-03-26 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
I thought that was Dean in the car?

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Date: 2012-03-26 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
YES! THIS! I didn't notice this when I watched it first, but then I rewatched with my SO and it was pointed out to me -- "Did Sam blow that guy for drugs or something?"

Date: 2012-03-26 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
Sign of the apocalypse?

Well, you know the world is supposed to end this year. In, a little under nine months, actually. So--maybe? Heh.

Date: 2012-03-26 08:39 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-03-26 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runedgirl.livejournal.com
Crossdressed Winchesters of either the Sam or Dean variety are a very good sign in my book. Also, I can totally see the reasons for exhibitionist!Sam, and guh, if it drives Dean out of his mind, more the better... :)

Date: 2012-03-26 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
I love when their weird kinks line up just right. ;)

Date: 2012-03-26 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherie-morte.livejournal.com
DOES THIS MEAN PEOPLE WILL START WRITING ME TOP!JENSEN? ;_____;

Date: 2012-03-26 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] checkthemargins.livejournal.com
I AM A FAN OF THIS IDEA!

Date: 2012-03-26 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
I don't know that top!Jensen necessarily correlates to top!Dean...

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Date: 2012-03-26 04:30 am (UTC)
heard_the_owl: made by lj user mediocrechick (Cas' Heavenly Boner)
From: [personal profile] heard_the_owl
PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU! PANTSU!
FOR DEAN AND SAMMY! PANTSU!

Date: 2012-03-26 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
I feel like I'm missing a reference that I shouldn't Google at work. <.< >.>
Edited Date: 2012-03-26 08:57 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-03-26 12:01 pm (UTC)
heard_the_owl: made by lj user mediocrechick (Baby Jared (still adorable))
From: [personal profile] heard_the_owl
I SHALL GOOGLE FOR YOU.
(and it actually isn't dirty. Just Japanese.) ^_^



Chi is a robot and her owner, Hideki, is a sweet virgin boy from the country who found the super expensive Persocom in a garbage can. He took her home and turned her on and then became VERY DISTURBED that Chi did not care one bit for modesty. (She spent a lot of time lounging in one of his shirts. There was a lot of nose bleeding, if I recall.) He was able to buy her clothes, but was too embarrassed to buy panties. So he sent her on a mission to buy PANTIES. And Chi sings the Panty song - PANTSU! PANTSU!

Dude. That would be a great J2 fic! Robot J, found by innocent college student from the country J. Nakedness. AND LOVE.

((The spoiler for the show is that even after they fall in love, Hideki learns that he can't have sex with Chi or it resets her memory.))

OF COURSE, I ALWAYS THOUGHT WHY CAN'T THEY HAVE ANAL? OR INTERCRURAL? VAGINAL SEX ISN'T THE ONLY WAY!!

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Date: 2012-03-26 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassiopeia7.livejournal.com
If anyone can write a hot, crossdressing!exhibitionist!Sam, it's YOU. *waits patiently*

Date: 2012-03-26 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
Hey, when did I say the crossdressing had anything to do with the exhibitionism? Crossdressing: something other people are doing. *nodnod* ;)

Not that I wouldn't read it. <.< >.>

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