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obstinatrix ([personal profile] obstinatrix) wrote2012-11-12 09:19 am

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Has anyone come across any fic where Amelia is a figment of Sam's imagination/a dissociative personality/a manifestation of Lucifer/otherwise not real?

[identity profile] missyjack.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 11:10 am (UTC)(link)
Haven't seen any fics with that, though its been discussed as a theory quite a bit. Would love to read it!

[identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 11:11 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen a lot of the theory discussion! I don't think it's anywhere Show is deliberately trying to go, although I would love it if they did, but it's a fascinating premise. If there is any fic on the subject I'd love to read it.
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[identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
I saw that post! I went away and thought about it for a couple of days and then decided there should be fic about it, but sadly I haven't been able to find any. Maybe I will write some. :)

[identity profile] akuneko42.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 11:57 am (UTC)(link)
Can she please be a figment of his imagination? I don't like her. I just don't like her attitude or personality or how mean she is to Sam.

[identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not a fan of her either, which is a shame because I really sort of wanted to ship them. One could do interesting things with the fact that this is the sort of character Sam's subconscious would create for him.

[identity profile] de-nugis.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I quite like Amelia, though some of the writing of her, notably the disaster of 8.1, has not been subtle or graceful.

But it has just occurred to me that this tale of two war widows falling into a relationship might read better if it were femmeslash.

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I do believe I've seen a few at [livejournal.com profile] ohsam, especially at the comment-fic meme. Can't speak to length or quality, as I haven't read them. (I am a bad fangirl) I like the idea that she's a figment of Sam's imagination, though, and keep meaning to maybe write something along those lines.

[identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, thank you! Excellent! Off I go to investigate. :) (And if you were to write something similar, I would eat it with a spoon, jsyk.)

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! If only my writing mojo were to return reliably... It's interesting to think about why Sam's subconscious would make up a bossy, broken woman who doesn't actually treat him very nicely and more as a distracting lay than anything else.

[identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Absolutely. Like, if Sam actually could not cope mentally any more, and his brain created a character just to keep itself going, why this person? It's somehow typically Sam.

[identity profile] ratherastory.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
So very, very Sam. Like, even his artificial constructs of relationships are somehow artfully designed to subtly punish him. Oh, Sammy.

[identity profile] grasshopr-molly.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
She could've been really the vet, and really been mean when they met over the dog, and it's just their further interactions that have been in his mind. Like, the seed for the nastiness was planted by the first meeting, and he's extrapolating from there.

[identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh! This is all very The Machinist.

[identity profile] grasshopr-molly.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It's very Sam to pick up on something that will punish him. Suppressed guilt over not looking for Dean, among other things.

I really like this theory (which I hadn't heard before). I will be sad if it's not true.

[identity profile] counteragent.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I have read this exact thing. But where!? I'll try and remember.

[identity profile] skylinehorizon.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I am in love with this idea. I've seen it mentioned, but haven't seen fanfic for it. It would also nicely get around the problem that hardly anyone in fandom seems to actually like Amelia, and would be super sad for Sam to realise that she doesn't in fact exist, and was just a way of him dealing with the loss of Dean, and, well, dealing with the loss of everyone.

[identity profile] petite-madame.livejournal.com 2012-11-12 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
No fic but it's a theory that I saw discussed a lot on Tumblr. If it's true, it would be awesome and it would make me see S8 under a new perspective (well, Sam's storyline anyway)
I know that your muse in vacation somewhere in the North Pole but if you have the time, YOU should definitely write this fic. :D