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May. 19th, 2012 03:00 am
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I don't even do reviews but FUCK THIS SHIT. DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD:

I AM SO DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD: RIGHT NOW I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH MYSELF. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING, SHOW? NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. NO.

NO.

NO.

THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT I WANTED.

WORST FINALE EVER.

fdkbgdfjbg.

Date: 2012-05-19 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mickeym.livejournal.com
I swear I should've seen something like this coming, but I wanted to believe that JUST ONCE the Winchesters would catch at least a *small* break.

I just--what WAS that?! ARGH.

Date: 2012-05-19 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
All I want when I watch this show is to see the brothers do stuff TOGETHER, okay. THIS IS WHY S4 IS THE SEASON I HAVE NEVER REWATCHED. ADKJLFJDSBG AAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH this had been speculated and I had tried to convince myself it wouldn't happen but basically, I don't even know how to console myself over this one right now.

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Date: 2012-05-19 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] de-nugis.livejournal.com
I don't mind them being separated -- if we actually get to see Sam rescue Dean this time that could be great -- what bothers me is that that was one hundred percent completely sterile of emotion. Dean and Sam had no interactions with each other that they couldn't just as well have had with Garth. It was zero intimacy. If next season doesn't bring back the emotion, I'm out of here.

Date: 2012-05-19 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
I know. And that's been the problem this whole season -- I don't know how they got here from 702 when I was really feeling it. Sigh.

Date: 2012-05-19 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] checkthemargins.livejournal.com
I like to think that Sam might not know he's in Real Life, and that's why his emotions this season have been a little batty.

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Date: 2012-05-19 03:24 am (UTC)
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You know, I think Sam's hell issue is coming back, 'cause his stone number one is no where to be found!

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Date: 2012-05-19 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quickreaver.livejournal.com
I totally get you, here. I'll keep watching, but man. They've gotta bring back character growth and some damn connection.

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Date: 2012-05-19 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runedgirl.livejournal.com
I wanted more emotion between Sam and Dean too, though they did exchange some heartfelt angsty looks when Bobby had to go, and Sam looked horribly lost and wanting to know where Dean was at the end....I'm going to put some faith in Jeremy Carver to allow the brothers some real emotion, as he has in the past, instead of only allowing it between Dean and Cas (the 'safer' choice, maybe....blaugh...) I do like the boys separated and one trying to rescue the other tho, so that has potential.

I was starting to feel a real fondness for this new version of Cas, so I'm sad about that too....

*goes off to rewatch the Impala-before-the-crash-moments and start drafting a SamDean OTP minibang fix-it fic....*

Date: 2012-05-19 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] de-nugis.livejournal.com
There was a spoiler from Jared (I think at JiB) about a conversation he and Dean had about coping and going on, and that conversation just didn't happen. Granted, Jared spoilers are like talking to a bright, friendly grasshopper on speed, but I can't help thinking that some stuff got cut, that they've been deliberately holding back on the emotion. I mean, Dean and Cas's conversation wasn't all that emotional either, compared to late last season. It seems like some want a more action show feel, and less a family melodrama.

I really, really hope Carver isn't one of them.

On the positive side, they gave us a plot set up which is perfect for angsty feel, they just left it to us to add all the actual, you know, emotion.

Date: 2012-05-19 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
On the one hand, I suppose this does give Sam a chance to do what he didn't manage to do at the end of S3 and save Dean? He's going to end up working with Meg, though, isn't he. :/ And I do not know how I feel about that, sigh.

I really, really just want some emotion back in my Show, though, and you're right, Carver has brought that in the past. I keep thinking of Mystery Spot, which is all about the boys being separated and yet they're more all-about-each-other than ever. Yes, let's cling to that. ;)

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Date: 2012-05-19 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] checkthemargins.livejournal.com
SUPERNATURAL IS STUPID.

Date: 2012-05-19 03:15 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-05-19 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enablelove.livejournal.com
I CRIED.

WHY ALWAYS THE SEPARATION DAMMIT?!

Date: 2012-05-19 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] checkthemargins.livejournal.com
BECAUSE CLEARLY THAT'S WHY WE WATCH THIS STUPID SHOW. WE WANT TO SEE THEIR INDIVIDUAL STORY LINES HAPPENING INDIVIDUALLY. DUH. IT'S NOT LIKE WE WERE DRAWN IN BY THE BROTHERLY BOND OR ANYTHING. WE WANT SAM WITH DEMONS AND DEAN WITH CAS.

CLEARLY, TBTB DELIVER WHAT WE WANT.

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Date: 2012-05-19 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassiopeia7.livejournal.com
But Sam (eventually) gets to rescue Dean, though. Surely that's a good thing?

Date: 2012-05-19 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
:/ I guess? But, you know, this all just feels like a rerun of the S3 finale but without any of the emotion.

Date: 2012-05-19 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kazminka.livejournal.com
I just feel like we're right back at the end of S3 where Dean's stuck somewhere and Sam's gonna go on a massive rampage to get him back. And I'm worried we're gonna end up with S4 Sam back and demon deals being made and what not and we've been there and done that, you know? I love a rampaging Sam who's gonna rip shit up until he gets his brother back but it's been done. Plus how long can they really keep them apart with Dean in Purgatory like that? It's gonna get real boring real quick if we have to watch him run around getting chased by red-eyed monsters because what else is really going on in Purgatory. And WTF was that with Cas at the end???

hahaha...apparently I had more feelings about this ep than I thought I did. Sorry for spewing this all over your journal :D

Date: 2012-05-19 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
Word. I mean, it might be cool if they had the budget to really do Purgatory, but they don't! They just don't. Purgatory is going to be a forest in Vancouver, which will probably be the forest from Wendigo and we'll all be unable to take it seriously. Calling it now.

Date: 2012-05-19 07:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cordelia-gray.livejournal.com
D:

DDDDD:

DD:

;_;

Date: 2012-05-19 12:08 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-05-19 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonofabiscuit77.livejournal.com
I am so angry right now that someone inadvertently spoiled me about the purgatory end because I was expecting it all the way through the finale and couldn't enjoy ANY of it.

I hate the boys being separated but I am cautiously hopeful. As you say, they boys have been together all season and there's been so little emotion that maybe separating them will generate some at long last. I also love the desperate do anything to get Dean back version of Sam, so I'm hoping we'll see him back too.

Meh, I don't know, I'm still too pissed off about being spoiled to have any real thoughts.

Date: 2012-05-19 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
D: I had been kind of spoiled, in that I had seen speculation that this was what might happen, and then [livejournal.com profile] checkthemargins and I wailed and rended our garments about it but I thought it was spec with no actual source. And then BAM, no, worst nightmare. Gnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnargh.

All my eggs are currently in the basket of 'last time Carver showed us Sam-without-Dean he wrote the greatest episode of all time', but I don't know how hopeful I am.

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Date: 2012-05-19 09:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glovered.livejournal.com
Aw, really? This means they will spend forever trying to get back to each other, and there will be longing and desperation, and maybe weird run-ins with past monsters! And Sam talking to people, but missing his brother. IDK why but I'm really happy about this.

Date: 2012-05-19 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
Having had a night to think about it, I think I could be okay with this, but it will absolutely depend on how long they're apart for, how well they do it, and whether I actually feel any connection to it at all.

Date: 2012-05-19 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secretlytodream.livejournal.com
As much as I don't want to, but I think I'll have t agree with you here :( Out of ALL SPN finales, that's the worst :\

Date: 2012-05-19 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
Siiiiiiiiiiigh. Yep.

Date: 2012-05-19 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] petite-madame.livejournal.com
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING, SHOW?
Bad quality? Awful plot (when there is one)? Brothers being dumb and needed to be explained everything by secondary characters? Brothers NOT being together most of the time? Pacing, what pacing? Too many fillers and practically zero mythology? Emotions (what is that again)? AHgHHHHhHhHhHHHHH!!!!

And I don't want to talk about the production design and the photography. It's filmed like a bad episode of Angel! I miss the greenish tones of the first seasons.

Date: 2012-05-19 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
Absolutely. And the thing is, I might be able to forgive it more if it looked good. It used to be a beautiful show when it wanted to be, and recently it's all just looked like a school play as shakily filmed by someone's dad. All the sets are horrible, the direction is clunky (lots of people just...standing around) and just. I miss the days when it had this beautiful ode-to-America vibe, all wide outdoor shots and sky.

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Date: 2012-05-19 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] disco-penguins.livejournal.com
There was less emotion overall cause dean and sam had no emotional connection to the leviathan at all, which is the sam as its been all season so i wasnt really bothered.
And at the end, well i think everone was trying to figure out wtf was going on.Though i'd have have been happy if dean had thrown a glance around and asked if sam was with them too.

I'm semi-hopeful maybe? I might just be deluding myself. But this gives sam the chance to really interact with characters other than dean (Got no clue who, since most of em are dead), which he hasn't been doing alot of this season.
And maybe he'll learn from the demon blood fiasco and go about this in a different way, and triumphantly bust dean out of purgatory and there can be manly hugs everywhere.

Date: 2012-05-19 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] discreetmath.livejournal.com
i kept seeing people saying the finale made them all happy because of dean/cas, and someone said about cas being naked!

and then people said how excited they are for season 8 now!

and obviously i was sitting here like "OH MY GOD YES AWESOME CAN'T WAIT" and then i watched it and now i can't get off the carpet. i'm stuck to the carpet by the salt of my own dried tears. fuck, man.

Date: 2012-05-20 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rock-chick-333.livejournal.com
Awww, babe. *pets you* Hung out with [livejournal.com profile] majestic_shriek last night, and she said you hated it.

I have no idea what I think; I watched it half an hour after having Misha smile at me full-beam, and my brain was still too busy flailing in post-orgasmic fangirl bliss to allow anything more than the most basic comprehension of the storyline.

Gonna rewatch tomorrow, but I'm not sanguine.

There's next season, right? Jeremy will be back. Everything will be okay. *pets more*

Date: 2012-05-20 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
I did hate it, I absolutely loathed it on first watch, but I'm not feeling quite so bad about it now. I have been talked around to how this leaves things wide open for some good potential -- I'm just not sure if I trust them to exploit it properly. But I'm sure fandom will, over the summer. :)

I am putting my faith in the fact that Carver is an epic Samboy right now.

Date: 2012-05-27 07:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinkandrise.livejournal.com
I liked it. Oops!

I'm looking forward to all the interim fic, das for sure.

Also, prayer circle that purgatory time is long like hell time and Cas falls and becomes human and he and Dean spend a long time fighting in purgatory and it goes all Mad Max-esque and they work out their problems and have sex. Meanwhile, Sam has grown more mature and level-headed and finds a safe, sane way to bring them home while at the same time banging Sheriff Jody and then Dean and Cas come back all bedraggled and rough, but more well-adjusted and happy and then there is many loving i-missed-you-and-i-love-you hugs between all of them.

Date: 2012-05-27 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obstinatrix.livejournal.com
Haha, that happening on the show would basically be my worst nightmare. But I've got over my initial D: at the finale and have come round to seeing it as at least a good potential starting point for lots of hiatus fic, even if I still think the episode itself sucked balls as a finale.

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